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	<title>Comments on: OpenGL sucks</title>
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		<title>By: null1024</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-16851</link>
		<dc:creator>null1024</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s not so much that OpenGL sucks -- its that on Windows, DX is used more, so card manufacturers give less of a damn about GL, just supporting the basics like you said. 

On Macs and under Linux, OpenGL is the only thing, so whatever features your card supports, the drivers there are written to expose them through OpenGL [although, you&#039;re still up a creek with Linux, due to various driver issues, but it&#039;s getting better]. 

@Aybabtus:
It&#039;s integrated on a bunch of motherboards, and your average laptop will have Intel video.
Also, I love Linux, but I really don&#039;t see Windows leaving within the next 5-10 years. Especially when Windows is a bit faster on my machine and supports more software, and the general public indifference towards Linux.
And also, Wine has billions of issues, so it can&#039;t really replace Windows now, if ever.

[and yes, I know this post and your comment are ancient]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s not so much that OpenGL sucks &#8212; its that on Windows, DX is used more, so card manufacturers give less of a damn about GL, just supporting the basics like you said. </p>
<p>On Macs and under Linux, OpenGL is the only thing, so whatever features your card supports, the drivers there are written to expose them through OpenGL [although, you're still up a creek with Linux, due to various driver issues, but it's getting better]. </p>
<p>@Aybabtus:<br />
It&#8217;s integrated on a bunch of motherboards, and your average laptop will have Intel video.<br />
Also, I love Linux, but I really don&#8217;t see Windows leaving within the next 5-10 years. Especially when Windows is a bit faster on my machine and supports more software, and the general public indifference towards Linux.<br />
And also, Wine has billions of issues, so it can&#8217;t really replace Windows now, if ever.</p>
<p>[and yes, I know this post and your comment are ancient]</p>
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		<title>By: blobman</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-16804</link>
		<dc:creator>blobman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geargod and clam are cunts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Master and clam are cunts</p>
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		<title>By: Gamingdew</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-13174</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamingdew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant the windows operating systems, sorry for doubble posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant the windows operating systems, sorry for doubble posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamingdew</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-13173</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamingdew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you making an gm8 decompiler?

OT:
It probably doesn&#039;t matter if your program supports cross platform operative systems for the most of your typical visitors, as long as you can use vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you making an gm8 decompiler?</p>
<p>OT:<br />
It probably doesn&#8217;t matter if your program supports cross platform operative systems for the most of your typical visitors, as long as you can use vista.</p>
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		<title>By: Bicubic</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-13104</link>
		<dc:creator>Bicubic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aybabtus:
Our (fairly obvious) goal is to make Aziel as simple to use as possible for as many people as possible. Making them jump through hoops on both linux and windows just to get it running is a bad idea. I&#039;d rather have well supported windows and poor to none support on linux/mac, than poor support on all.

If windows starts losing its market share or OpenGL picks up, I&#039;ll be happy to port the graphics system to support it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aybabtus:<br />
Our (fairly obvious) goal is to make Aziel as simple to use as possible for as many people as possible. Making them jump through hoops on both linux and windows just to get it running is a bad idea. I&#8217;d rather have well supported windows and poor to none support on linux/mac, than poor support on all.</p>
<p>If windows starts losing its market share or OpenGL picks up, I&#8217;ll be happy to port the graphics system to support it.</p>
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		<title>By: Wild-Tiger</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-13102</link>
		<dc:creator>Wild-Tiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see windows going anywhere. It&#039;s too costly for businesses to change an operating system, even in 7 years. Imagine the work the work involved in not only rebuilding their business&#039; software from scratch - but at the same time continuing to use the current model so that business doesn&#039;t instantly die.

More to the point... linux is only a small market. It&#039;s the windows users that would be more likely to have an intel chip (and use Aziel)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see windows going anywhere. It&#8217;s too costly for businesses to change an operating system, even in 7 years. Imagine the work the work involved in not only rebuilding their business&#8217; software from scratch &#8211; but at the same time continuing to use the current model so that business doesn&#8217;t instantly die.</p>
<p>More to the point&#8230; linux is only a small market. It&#8217;s the windows users that would be more likely to have an intel chip (and use Aziel)</p>
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		<title>By: Aybabtus</title>
		<link>http://www.messy-mind.net/2009/opengl-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-13100</link>
		<dc:creator>Aybabtus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t be serious, you mean that more than 50% of the computers in your audience uses a such n00bchip as an Intel one? It&#039;s even worse than ATI!

I wish that microsoft never dropped their seat at the OGL ARB, if they hadn&#039;t come up with the brilliant idea of making a product ( DX ) that not work at other systems than their own ( Win ) the world would probably be a better place.

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Quick google search turned up:
http://intellinuxgraphics.org/

Seems like there is OpenSource drivers for IntelChips on Linux.

You shouldn&#039;t have any trouble on Win7 with OpenGL, if you can find the right file with the weirdest name to intall :D

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Don&#039;t go for XNA - I beleve that in within a maximum of 7 years ( maybe 3 ) Windows will be out of the picture.

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be serious, you mean that more than 50% of the computers in your audience uses a such n00bchip as an Intel one? It&#8217;s even worse than ATI!</p>
<p>I wish that microsoft never dropped their seat at the OGL ARB, if they hadn&#8217;t come up with the brilliant idea of making a product ( DX ) that not work at other systems than their own ( Win ) the world would probably be a better place.</p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
Quick google search turned up:<br />
<a href="http://intellinuxgraphics.org/" rel="nofollow">http://intellinuxgraphics.org/</a></p>
<p>Seems like there is OpenSource drivers for IntelChips on Linux.</p>
<p>You shouldn&#8217;t have any trouble on Win7 with OpenGL, if you can find the right file with the weirdest name to intall <img src='http://www.messy-mind.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;-<br />
Don&#8217;t go for XNA &#8211; I beleve that in within a maximum of 7 years ( maybe 3 ) Windows will be out of the picture.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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